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Nurse Ratched 6:12 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
I might start on 1923 tonight and report back to you. I expect, as in 1884, there will be magic Indians saving the day with their ancient wisdom and all that caper.

Lee Trundle 5:55 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
I raved about Yellowstone, Nurse.

To be perfectly honest, it fell a bit off a cliff for me. I haven't got round to finish the last season, which in turn has stopped me watching 1923, which I've heard is VERY good.

Nurse Ratched 5:50 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
It's unlikely it will. But staring at her buffers would be better than her twisted, 'I've just suffered a stroke' gob.

Lee Trundle 5:46 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
"It has great reviews but there is an actress in it who ruins everything she's in."

Her breasts are tremendous, if that helps?

Nurse Ratched 5:44 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
I love Westerns and I've been in two minds whether or not to watch Yellowstone. It has great reviews but there is an actress in it who ruins everything she's in. She's bloody terrible. Enough to make me consider swerving it. Anyway, I thought why not start in chronological order with '1883' and see if you get invested. Even Sam Elliott couldn't rescue it. The narration is so bad it could be a spoof. I thought "That's the worst American accent I've ever heard" then later found out the actress is actually American. Then came the spectacle of 19th century parents being relaxed and non-judgmental about their teenage daughter having sex (and possibly getting pregnant) by a bloke she'd just met, then later, fucking and 'marrying' a native American and wearing 'squaw' clothing. Her dad punched the first bloke for publicly screwing his daughter, but within 5 seconds was persuaded to be cool about it.

Next up: '1924'. I am really curious to see what they do with this. Probably have the young folk cutting about in miniskirts and bikini tops...

..and god knows what the women will be up to.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:12 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
It's based on a short story, I hear.

Swiss. 2:09 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Ridley Scott has made some real stinkers recently but I have to say Napoleon looks excellent.

Hermit Road 1:58 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
It's film. Films have gone to shit.

And you can go back a lot further than 2020.

You can watch most films with a woke bingo card and get a full house pretty early on. They're bloody boring due to ideological conformity couple with ideological evangalism which has totally stifled creativity.

Swiss. 1:54 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
I thought Extraction 2 was excellent. Ok it's a Netflix streamed movie. The latest MI is also pretty good. Operation Fortune can be added to that lis

But definitely less decent lower budget stuff being made. Like Dog Soldiers or The Decent etc.

But I'm in general agreement that the latest "Blockbusters" have been pretty shit. (except MI as above). Yeah Disney wrecked Star Wars,

RBshorty 12:25 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
As always.

When the money get's tight. The shit get's real.!


BTW. All you Phoebe Waller-Bridge fans out there. She is staring in the next Alien movie (Due out next summer.) So that be another franchise she be able to sprinkle her own brand of star power onto.

Enjoy....

BRANDED 11:35 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Who’d have thought that the people with the money define the business?
If the investment is high then the investors will do anything to ensure a return which is why we have franchise blockbusters and then pretentious arthouse nonsense for “independent” cinema chains.

RBshorty 11:24 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
A industry built on fear. Money. And Arsehole kisser's will always fail. Alfs. Grab your cash. And get the fuck out of Dodge.!

zico 9:51 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Alfs 4:18 Fri Aug 4

Interesting Alfs. I what way do these producers lean when it coms to a re-write? Is it to benefit their own beliefs or to promote certain actors or something?

Alfs 4:18 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Interesting topic.

The problem is fear. And Producers who think they know better than the writer.

I've sold several screenplays, and have been very well paid for them, but none, zero, have been made. It really hurts, tbh

As soon as some company buys your script, they own it. They'll pay you tens of thousands of pounds to do a new draft, based on the opinions of the money men, the executive producers who are basically accountants, but think they're film auteurs,

Once you've rewritten it, to their notes, 5 or 6 times, still not satisfied, they'll bring on a new writer, who fucks it up even more.

What began as a script that so many people were excited about, becomes a mess. Funders pull out, actors pull out and the whole project dies a painful death.

I still do it, but every script is harder to write, knowing the nightmare will follow, yet hoping that the next one will get made.

It's a truly brutal business.

deanjcrawford 3:19 Fri Aug 4
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Of course some of you neanderthals would bring up the drinker and nerdotic. Two charlatans that realise the money is on the right and calling everything woke. The drinker pines for a time where you could slap your missus and tell her to get back in the kitchen. Nerdotic thinks anything with a minority in is woke. So fucking boring.

There are plenty of good films out there. Just stay away from franchises made for kids and you’ll be fine.

Nick QQQ 8:27 Thu Aug 3
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Surely they will have to change the name then?

India Jones?
Illy-Anna Jones?

zico 12:58 Thu Aug 3
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
"Phoebe Waller-Bridge is being lined up to replace Harrison Ford in the Indiana Jones franchise.

The Fleabag star will appear opposite the veteran actor in his upcoming fifth outing as the adventurer, and it’s been claimed producers are keen for her to take over the famous hat and whip and lead the next movie in the series as a female version of the archaeology professor.

A source told the Mail on Sunday that producer Kathleen Kennedy wants to make ‘big, bold changes’ to the franchise."


Well that's one film I won't be watching. Same as Bond really, I haven't even watched No Time to Die yet although personally think the franchise was done after Connery and Moore. In my opinion of course.

I think half the problem seems to be that the rights to these films change hands so much so eventually whoever created it has absolutely no say whatsoever. I was listening to Sly Stallone recently and was really surprised that he has no rights at all over the Rocky franchise.

Lee Trundle 11:12 Thu Aug 3
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
I fucking hate the Crystal Skull. I'd go as far to say it's one of the worst movies ever made as it ruined Indiana Jones for me. South Park summed it up perfectly when they had Lucas and Spielberg raping Indiana Jones.

I won't be watching the new one.

Nick QQQ 10:53 Thu Aug 3
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
The crystal skull was shit, can’t imagine it’s much better than that. As you say surface, it’s dragging it out to try and bleed the last $ from the franchise.

Can’t blame Harrison Ford, but he shouldn’t be doing these action films.

Thanks for the recommendations below all

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:41 Thu Aug 3
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Bruuuno

The main complaint is that Indy is portrayed as a drooling, useless geriatric who has to be constantly rescued by the real hero Phoebe Waller Bridge.

If you want to make a film about a piss-stained old fart in constant need of support from a STRONG INDEPENDENT FEMALE, fine. Go ahead and make it. But if you call it an Indiana Jones movie, you are going to have to accept some push-back from long-term fans.

See also Luke Skywalker in the last Star Wars movie. Same plot - useless broken old man, the much-loved central character in long established cash cow of a franchise easily surpassed and replaced by dislikable STRONG INDEPENDENT FEMALE. That was a financial failure, too. It cost $400m to make, plus anothe $100m in marketing and took $1.055b at the box office. It might just about have broken even.

See also Nick Fury in Secret Invasion. Now, you might say that's a TV series and is nothing to do with it - but you have to see it in order to understand the upcoming clusterfuck that is 'The Marvels'

bruuuno 11:01 Wed Aug 2
Re: 2020+ when movies went shit
Scorch why is Indy shit? I was going to watch it as some people say it’s good

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